[Judy Pino] Hello and welcome to Green Scene, EPA's series of environmental podcasts that you can take with you. I'm Judy Pino with the Office of Multimedia. Across the country major corporations, small businesses and public facilities are steering a course toward environmental excellence by going above and beyond their legal requirements to improve the quality of our nation's air, water and land. EPA recognizes their efforts through the Performance Track program, and to talk to us about that is Rick Otis, Deputy of the Office of Policy, Economics and Innovation. Rick, thanks for joining us. [Rick Otis] My pleasure. Thank you for inviting me. [Judy Pino] Now, EPA has many voluntary programs, but what has made Performance Track the most comprehensive program? [Rick Otis] Well, one of the things many of our partnership or stewardship collaboration programs the agency has -- many of them focus on a particular environmental goal, for example, energy stars, energy efficiency; we have programs dedicated to recycling or water reduction and so on and so forth, like the new Water Sense program. Energy Star program does energy. Performance Track's main goal is to look at a variety -- more holistic look of environmental things, so you're looking at pollution reduction from the manufacturing plant, you're looking at the design of the product itself, you're looking at your upstream customers. You're looking at water, you're looking at air, you're looking at land. You're looking at all these different things in one facility. [Judy Pino] Comprehensive. [Rick Otis] Comprehensive. [Judy Pino] Now, there are thousands of corporations, small businesses and facilities across the country, but there are only 500 members of Performance Track, and that's pretty exclusive. [Rick Otis] It is. [Judy Pino] Tell us why. [Rick Otis] Well, it's a program that you can't just sign up for. It has a very rigorous application process. We do it twice a year, and people apply, they fill out some of the applications, and we do a lot of hard work and look at them very carefully. We don't always accept everybody. We actually at some times say, "I'm sorry, you're just not ready for the program," and we've turned people down for it. They have to have a record of sustained high level of environmental compliance with existing regulatory requirements. They have to have environmental management systems in place. They have to promise to undertake some beyond-compliance environmental improvements they wouldn't ordinarily do, and they have to report their progress to the public. That's a lot of things people have to do. We're looking for environmental leaders across the country. [Judy Pino] So, it's hard to get in and it's also hard to stay. [Rick Otis] Yes, it's hard to stay in. We've actually said to some folks who had a hard time keeping up with the requirements -- we've actually asked them to leave. [Judy Pino] Now, why would any of these members want to do more than is required? What are the benefits of joining Performance Track? [Rick Otis] Well, when the program was created in, I think, about 2000 by the then-EPA Administrator Carol Browner under the Clinton/Gore administration and with the support of all of EPA administrators since, it was a recognition that across the country we're beginning to see individual facilities or companies where they're trying to weave environmental performance into how they succeed. In other words, they're aiming for both economic and environmental sustainability. And this is a very important and very interesting trend, and we're trying to create an agency program that fosters that. [Judy Pino] How does it fit into the overall mission of EPA? [Rick Otis] Well, part of our job in improving environment and health over the years as we've -- in the first 37 years of the agency, at the very beginning we focused mostly on regulations and enforcement, and we got a lot of environmental improvement from that. But over time we've learned that we really need a much wider range of tools, and this is a program designed to take advantage of not only the minimum regulatory requirements you have to meet, but to take advantage of creating peer groups, creating a world in which somebody is doing it for, in a sense, their own interest. [Judy Pino] Now, let's talk about the results that are being achieved through this program. [Rick Otis] One of the things that we aim for is we have them look for stretch goals. This is something that's hard for them to do, and we aim -- I think four goals is what they look for, and they have a year or a couple of years to meet those goals. We've made substantial improvements in environmental results. There's 5.2, I think, billion gallons of water saved, 52,000 tons of hazardous waste that are not being generated or not having to be disposed, 16,000 acres of land that's been turned into habitat support. So, the environmental numbers are pretty impressive, and the key thing to remember: these are improvements beyond the minimum they were already required to do, things they didn't have to do. [Judy Pino] And I understand Performance Track is also having influence in a number of arenas. [Rick Otis] It does. When the program was created, we weren't the only ones with the idea of trying to encourage this beyond-compliance mindset. There were states that were thinking the same thing. We now have 20 state counterparts, and we work with them on coordinating our programs and theirs, so across the country at the state level we see a recognition of the same importance of Performance Track. We also got a recognition from the Kennedy School at Harvard -- it's sort of what I would call the Oscars of the public sector -- as one of the most innovative federal programs, and we're quite proud of that. We've also noticed, rather interesting, that the financial investment community is beginning to look at Performance Track as a recognition of "something unusual is going on in this company that may warrant a careful look." [Judy Pino] So, the most exciting thing is that this is a voluntary program and you still have members that have been around since the beginning. [Rick Otis] We have members that have been around since the beginning, and actually, for those members, membership is getting difficult in a sense that they've achieved many beyond-compliance goals that they've set and now they have to look for new ones. And it's interesting to watch a company strive to go way beyond compliance to the point where they're talking to their customers or they're looking downstream at the product and saying, how do we do a better job? [Judy Pino] And that's the idea behind Performance Track. [Rick Otis] Yes. [Judy Pino] Rick, thank you so much for everything you do. Thanks for enlightening us on this issue. [Rick Otis] My pleasure. Thank you. [Judy Pino] And, of course, Performance Track welcomes all qualifying facilities, and applications are accepted twice a year, April 1 through May 31 and September 1 through October 31. Annual performance reports and renewal applications are available on February 1 and due on April 1. And for more information, please visit www.epa.gov/performancetrack. See you next time on Green Scene.